Robertson Disrespects Qur’an

October 30, 2006 § 20 Comments

I’m convinced… Pat Robertson is a mad-man. He was recently reported discrediting the Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.s.) and the Qur’an, however CAIR promptly responded,

“WASHINGTON (AP) — An American Muslim group is criticizing the Reverend Pat Robertson for suggesting that the Quran, rather than being a divine revelation, was a fraudulent creation of Muhammad to justify his own actions.” (KTHV)

Advertisements

§ 20 Responses to Robertson Disrespects Qur’an

  • Salam

    I can’t stand Pat Robertson, and he is continually finding new nasty things to say about anyone who is not in his particular little cult.

    However, I find it strange that we expect non-Muslims to agree with us that the Quran is a divine text.

    I mean, if they agreed on that, they’d be Muslim wouldn’t they?

    Doesn’t it sort of stand to reason that non-Muslims would have some sort of other explanation for what the Quran is?And the natural reason would be that our Prophet wrote it himself?

    What else do you expect them to say?

  • Abu Sahajj says:

    “What else do you expect them to say?”

    I would at the very least expect him know history and the story of the Prophet Muhammad before he makes his claims or further to recognize this ayah before he makes his claims,

    “Those who believe (in the Qur’an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.” (2:62)

    Which may just be wishful thinking… well I guess it doesn’t matter much what he says because of the truth in this ayah,

    “Those who believe (in the Qur’an), those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Sabians, Christians, Magians, and Polytheists,- Allah will judge between them on the Day of Judgment: for Allah is witness of all things.” (22:17)

    wasalaam

  • DrM says:

    Anna brings up an interesting point about non-Muslim and Islam but Robertson is out of control with his armagedonist madness( used to be a booze shuttler and a frequent visitor to South Korean brothels during the Korean war). I think its high time all evangelicals be deported from Muslim countries. Good thing Middle Eastern Christians see these scofielder lunatics for the heretics that they are.
    Besides, would you take a guy who claims to have bench pressed 2000 lbs seriously? I wouldnt.

  • As salaamu alaikum,

    Pat Robertson is constantly offending someone. It is just the way he is. That said, I can appreciate the ayats included within the above comment. They are a great reminder, Alhamdulillah.

    There are Muslims and non-Muslims who are respectful toward their own faiths, as well as the faiths of others. Then you have those who disrespect thier own faith and the faiths of others.

    Pat Robertson has a terrible track record when it comes to being respectful toward others, so I don’t really think that one should expect anything different from him.

    If we make a stink about something he[Pat Robertson] has said, we spread his ignorance. If we want to warn others, I think we should merely say,”Avoid Pat Robertson, he is bound to offend you and your beliefs”.

    Note: This warning is for Christians as well!

  • thabet says:

    Why should Muslims care if Robertson thinks the Qur’an was “the work of Muhammad”? Why should Robertson “know his history” or even agree with Muslim history as deciphered by Muslims? I don’t think CAIR has any need to be involved here. They look silly.

    Should Christians get worked up over Muslim rejection of the Trinity as a fabricated doctrine or the rejection of Jesus (pbuh) as Lord and Saviour?

    wasalam

  • Dirty Butter says:

    All I can say is Consider the Source, and don’t pay any attention to him. Causing controversy is his style.

  • Abu Sahajj says:

    “Why should Muslims care if Robertson thinks the Qur’an was “the work of Muhammad”? Why should Robertson “know his history” or even agree with Muslim history as deciphered by Muslims?”

    Because Thabet, despite whether you think it is important or not Robertson has behind him a powerful media machine supporting his senile rants… therefore his tirade cannot go ignored it must be countered for the sake of media integrity at the very least (concerning CAIR). Besides its fun to post about Robertson… he’s obviously psychologically unstable and I like to see what people have to say… its all about the discussion, thanks for contributing.

  • shaharazed says:

    Assalaam alaykum,

    I think it is important to be aware of people like Robertson. He has a very faithful following of Christians in the U.S. who are very politically active.

    They most certainly helped George Bush to power, and also support what’s happening in Iraq, Afghanistan, and the whatever this administration does in the Muslim world, in general.

    They also have a silent acceptance of Guantanamo.

    All of these things affect Muslims, not only in America, but around the world.

    An interesting side note: I used to watch the 700 club years ago, and one time I decided to call them up on their 800 number. I asked the person about the trinity, and how could God be three in one. The person immediately started calling me the devil and hung up the phone.

    This is my experience, but I believe many of his followers don’t think, they just take whatever he says.

  • PatB says:

    I’ll not defend Mr. Robinson, but as stated above what do you expect a man that believes differently to say?
    All religions believe their ‘scripture’ as the one and only and all others wrong or corrupted. This is a non story.
    “I think its high time all evangelicals be deported from Muslim countries. Good thing Middle Eastern Christians see these scofielder lunatics for the heretics that they are.”
    Actually evangelicals/indiginous Christians are generally treated terribly in Muslim countries (if allowed at all). Not a very good track record for Islam and tolerance. From Egypts record with the Copts, Sudan and the Janjaweed, Lebanese Christians etc. etc.
    Glass houses abound on all sides.

  • PatB says:

    As a side note to Shaharazed.
    Why can’t God be whatever he chooses as 3 in one. Where is God exactly, in one spot?
    What other restrictions do you place on Gods power or ability or purpose?
    Can God inhabit more than one place at a time and does that negate the one God aspect?
    Just asking.

  • DrM says:

    PaTb, you’re brainwashed beyond measure. Evangelical Christians are by far the most extremist fanatics on the face of the earth supporting terrorism against Muslims on a daily basis , and frankly I see no reason why they should be respected by anyone with half a brain.

  • OmarG says:

    Salam Abu Sahajj. The verses you mentioned above present a message I like very much. Unfortunately for us, many scholars have declared these verses to be abrogated. If our aplogetics are influential enough, maybe we can get the “ulama” to take back the abrogation thingy…

  • shaharazed says:

    Why can’t God be whatever he chooses as 3 in one.

    “Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one”

    From Qur’an:

    “for [we know] that sublimely exalted is our Sustainer’s majesty: no consort has He ever taken unto Himself, nor a son!” (72:3)

    SAY: “He is the One God:

    “God the Eternal, the Uncaused Cause of All Being.

    “He begets not, and neither is He begotten;”

    “and there is nothing that could be compared with Him.” (112: 1-4)

    By believing in One God does not place Him in one spot.

    From Qur’an:

    “And God’s is the east and the west: and wherever you turn, there is God’s countenance. Behold God is Infinite, All-Knowing.” (2:115)

    What other restrictions do you place on Gods power or ability or purpose? None.

    “AND UNTO GOD belongs the dominion over the heavens and the earth: and God has the power to will anything.” (3:189)

    “Unto God you all must return; and He has the power to will anything.” (11:4)

    Can God inhabit more than one place at a time : Yes
    and does that negate the one God aspect? No.

    Finally: “O Followers of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs, and do not say of God anything but the truth. The Christ Jesus, son of Mary, was but God’s Apostle – [the fulfilment of] His promise which He had conveyed unto Mary – and a soul created by Him. Believe, then, in God and His apostles, and do not say,”[God is] a trinity”. Desist [from this assertion] for your own good. God is but one God; utterly remote is He, in His glory, from having a son: unto Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth; and none is as worthy of trust as God.” (4:171)

  • PatB says:

    “Can God inhabit more than one place at a time : Yes
    and does that negate the one God aspect? No.”
    I agree with you on this statement.
    The Old Testement was fulfilled when Christ died on the cross and the prophesy complete thus making the New Testiment the Word.
    We, too, believe in one God.
    As I do not believe the Qur’an to be divine (as you believe the Bible ‘corrupted’ even though copies that predate Mohammed exist and are the same as the present scriptures) so quoting from another ‘book’ is rather irrelevant.
    You will not find one Christian that will tell you there is more than one God, that is a Muslim opinion/interpretation of Christianity. As Islam developed Muhammed had to address Christ and did so in that fashion. You believe that, I do not.
    We do agree on monotheism though and that’s better than nothing.

  • Salam

    Not all evangelicals are like Pat Robertson.

    There is an evangelical Coptic Church (not the same as the Orthodox or Catholic ones) that runs many good social services in Cairo and I knew people from this church and they were as far from Pat Robertson as it is possible to get. Also they are an indigenous Middle Eastern church, not a Western import.

    Also, there are even Western evangelicals who are sane. E.g. the “Slacktivist” Website that spends its time explaining why the Left Behind books are theologically wrong.

    So I don’t think anyone needs deporting – our faith is strong and not in danger from kooks like that.

  • Dirty Butter says:

    Evangelical Christians are by far the most extremist fanatics on the face of the earth supporting terrorism against Muslims on a daily basis , and frankly I see no reason why they should be respected by anyone with half a brain.

    Dr. M, my DH and I are Southern Baptists, which I think qualifies us as Evangelical Christians. I would hope that my posts on the Kashmiri and here on Wa Salaam show that I am an open minded person who is interested in learning about the Islamic faith.

    You paint Evangelicals with way too wide a brush. There certainly are groups that openly call for the destruction of all Muslims as agents of the Devil, but these fanatics do not represent all Evangelical Christians any more than the terrorists represent all Muslims.

  • Abu Sahajj says:

    “There certainly are groups that openly call for the destruction of all Muslims as agents of the Devil, but these fanatics do not represent all Evangelical Christians any more than the terrorists represent all Muslims.”

    Well said… DB.

  • James says:

    I’m reminded of the Claude Rains quote from Casablanca “I’m shocked! Shocked, to find gambling at this establishment! The Wrong Reverend Robertson has left a trail of slime from his Korea days. His bigotry knows no bounds. But he does have thousands of sheeple who follow him. CAIR was right to push back.
    Remember that Robertson is part of the Dominionist movement. He wants the USA to become a “Christian” nation. Not that his version of Christianity has anything to do with the teachings of Jesus. “Do on to others as you would wish they would do unto you?” More like do unto others BEFORE they do unto you.
    He represents a minority of Evangelical Christians: Dominionist Protestant Authoritarians, but well financed and well organised. And they are very vocal. Robertson may be power mad but he’s not insane. He controls a financial empire and a critical political movement under the guise of Righteousness. He controls via ignorance and bigotry. So may god bless CAIR and all the other organisations that are countering this clear and present danger to democracy and to tolerance.

  • Abu Sahajj says:

    “He represents a minority of Evangelical Christians: Dominionist Protestant Authoritarians, but well financed and well organised. And they are very vocal.”

    Thabet, this is the reason I posted the article it just seems unintelligent not to feed these developments into the Muslim-pipeline of Islamic and Muslim related discussions on the web.

  • DrM says:

    Well Dirty Butter, you may indeed be an open minded and respectful person. Sadly, this is not the case with major Evangelical leaders like Falwell, Robertson, Vines, Graham etc…I could go on and on. Their support of terrorism against Muslims in Iraq, Palestine and Lebanon coupled with craven and disgusting attacks on Islam really doesn’t fill me with anything but contempt for them and everything they stand for.

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out / Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out / Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out / Change )

Google+ photo

You are commenting using your Google+ account. Log Out / Change )

Connecting to %s

What’s this?

You are currently reading Robertson Disrespects Qur’an at SEYFETTİN.

meta

%d bloggers like this: