Bad Theology

July 13, 2006 § 6 Comments

Click to View the Nicene CreedI would like to question Christian ministers, pastors or clergy on a matter of Theology. For I feel it is these men that must answer the questions that are beginning to bubble within the minds the American people, which is Christians and Muslims… where do we disagree? It is a valid and honorable question, and I hope to clarify some misunderstanding of disagreements within this post:

  • We believe in Isa ibn Marayam (Jesus the Christ).
  • We believe that he was miraculously born of the Virgin Mary.
  • We believe that his life and deeds were free of sin.
  • We believe that he performed miracles and raised the dead by the Will of God.
  • We believe that he will return to Earth on the Day of Judgement.

However, we do not believe that he was the begotten Son of God. Firstly, because using the word begotten relates the animal qualities of sex to God. The term begotten is the past tense form of beget which means literally, to father or sire. The act of fathering needs no explanation however ‘to sire’ is less intuitive. The American heritage Dictionary defines the word sire as:

sire (sīr)

  1. A father.
  2. The male parent of an animal, especially a domesticated mammal such as a horse.
  3. Archaic. A male ancestor; a forefather.
  4. Archaic. A gentleman of rank.
  5. Archaic. Used as a form of address for a superior, especially a king.

This claim that Umm Isa Marayam (The Virgin Mary) was sired by God, is a gross and egregious error on the part of the Christian theology, and incidentally, a technical term used in animal husbandry. This article is a call to those knowledgeable of the catechism of your tradition. I would like to openly discuss the divinity of Jesus the Christ as it is related in the King James Version of the Bible.


§ 6 Responses to Bad Theology

  • Leon says:

    I must admit, there are a lot of similarites between our religions. But Christianity is about reaching God through Christ.

  • Abu Sahajj says:

    I must admit, there are a lot of similarites between our religions. But Christianity is about reaching God through Christ.

    Please be more specific… explain more about this statement. For starters how, do `Christians` reach God through Christ?

  • Jael says:

    Very good questions, Abu Sahajj. I am a Christian and I would like to see the same, only without the Muslim bashing that goes on. I want to see a respectful discussion between two knowlegeable parties.

  • notapundit says:

    I am not an ordained Catholic priest or bishop, lay minister, or trained theologian.

    We Catholics profess that Jesus Christ was conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit and born of the Virgin Mary.

    The Nicene Creed states it as this: “For us men and for our salvation he came down from heaven; by the power of the Holy Spirit, he became incarnate of the Virgin Mary, and was made man.” Another way of saying Jesus Christ was conceived and born is that the “Word became flesh” or the “Word became incarnate”.

    It is important to first note the meaning of the name Jesus Christ.

    Jesus means in Hebrew, “God saves.” The name “Jesus” signifies that the very name of God is present in the person of his Son, made man for the universal and definitive redemption from sins. It is the divine name that alone brings salvation, and henceforth all can invoke his name, for Jesus united himself to all men through his Incarnation, so that “there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

    The word “Christ” comes from the Greek translation of the Hebrew “Messiah”, which means “anointed” or “anointed one”. The Son of God was consecrated as Christ (Messiah) by the anointing of the Holy Spirit at his Incarnation (Psalm 2:6-7). The entire mission of the Son and the Holy Spirit, in the fullness of time, is contained in this: that the Son is the one anointed by the Father’s Spirit since his Incarnation – Jesus is the Christ, the Messiah. Jesus is Christ, “anointed,” because the Spirit is his anointing, and everything that occurs from the Incarnation on derives from this fullness.

    The notion of anointing suggests . . . that there is no distance between the Son and the Spirit. Indeed, just as between the surface of the body and the anointing with oil neither reason nor sensation recognizes any intermediary, so the contact of the Son with the Spirit is immediate, so that anyone who would make contact with the Son by faith must first encounter the oil by contact. In fact there is no part that is not covered by the Holy Spirit. That is why the confession of the Son’s Lordship is made in the Holy Spirit by those who receive him, the Spirit coming from all sides to those who approach the Son in faith.

    Leon is correct that through Christ we reach God. Thus, why did the Word become flesh?

    The Word became flesh for us:
    (1) in order to save us by reconciling us with God, who “loved us and sent his Son to be the expiation for our sins”: “the Father has sent his Son as the Saviour of the world”, and “he was revealed to take away sins” (1 John 3:5, 4:10; 4:14);

    (2) so that thus we might know God’s love: “In this the love of God was made manifest among us, that God sent his only Son into the world, so that we might live through him.” “For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.” (1 John 4:9; John 3:16);

    (3) to be our model of holiness: “Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me.” “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but by me.” (Matthew 11:29; John 14:6) On the mountain of the Transfiguration, the Father commands: “Listen to him!” (Mark 9:7) “Love one another as I love you.” (John 15:12) This love implies an effective offering of oneself, after his example. (Mark 8:34)

    (4) partakers of the divine nature. (2 Peter 1:4) “For this is why the Word became man, and the Son of God became the Son of man: so that man, by entering into communion with the Word and thus receiving divine sonship, might become a son of God.”

    This is the Christian faith and God’s truth. The difference between Islam and Christianity is the belief in the true Incarnation of the Son of God. This is why you are having this difficulty. It may be just in the word “begotten”, but my guess is that it goes deeper than that.

    This is the mystery of our faith and religion. God was manifested in the flesh. (1 Timothy 3:16) More importantly, “This is how you can know the Spirit of God: every spirit that acknowledges Jesus Christ come in the flesh belongs to God, and every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus does not belong to God. This is the spirit of the antichrist that , as you heard, is to come, but in fact is already in the world.” (1 John 4:2-3)

    I hope this helps you better understand.

  • Umm Zaid says:

    All I can say is Alhamdulillah ‘ala ni’matul Islam.

  • Abu Sahajj says:

    f’alan… awy!

    salaam, ukhti.

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